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spoofmaster wrote in asexuality
Watch this clip from an upcoming episode of House. No, seriously, go watch it right now. I'll wait.


So this episode is going to make me either very happy or very angry, depending on how they handle it. shinydinosaur found this via house_wilson.

Excuse me while I go flail for a while.

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'Scuse me while I go listen to Wilson's first two sentences on repeat for all eternity.

I might have squee'd out loud when he said those lines <3 Wilson is amazing xD

And a married ace, too! Even as an aromantic, I'm pretty thrilled that they're jumping right in and dealing with romantic aces instead of stereotyping us all as double-A.

He has always - and will always be - my favorite character. Now I understand why. :)

I also find it ironic in a way that House is naturally the one to be suspicious of this relationship/person, as the character of House is based off of none other than Sherlock Holmes - who a lot of fans agree can easily be viewed as asexual.

Edited at 2012-01-14 06:14 am (UTC)

I am ridiculously happy that the show's most moral and reasonable character is behind us. We need a gif of it.

I'd do it but I'm not skilled in the art of gifmaking, sadly.

This is the audio clip to rule all audio clips! I really REALLY hope they do the right thing!

Me too, omg.
Otherwise prepare for some really heated letter-writing. :P

Hm... I haven't watched this show for years, is it allowed to show House being wrong once in a while? 'Cause while this looks commendable so far (apart from making Wilson look like he deserves to have his medical license revoked for breaching doctor-patient-confidality over a *bet*), it could really backfire if House actually does find a physical reason for this woman's disinterest in sex.

Fairly sure I've seen way worse things on this show that would deserve a revoked medical license. House has been wrong before, and patients have stood up to him, although I honestly couldn't pinpoint an example right now (could be that I'm too happy-distracted and it's nearly 1:30am).

That's also my biggest fear, is that they'll make it out like LOL SHE'S ACTUALLY SICK/CHEATING/ETC. :|

That's what im worried about, but, he is only testing the wife, not the also ace husband :D will be interesting to see how that factors in.

..which is partly why I'm more on the hopeful side of caution about this episode, because there's been times where a patient's attitude/lifestyle/whathaveyou never changed even after they got better from whatever legitimate illness they had and House was just like 'wtf' and that was that. AND that seems to be the primary focus of the episode.
Normally, Wilson and/or his patients are dealt with in some subplot but the fact that it's the main plot just makes me all the more frantic to see how it ends. Upon further investigation it *does* look like the B-plot, but that often ties into something else in the episode, so it's still very important.

Edited at 2012-01-14 06:39 am (UTC)

This will be SO amazing IF there isn't a medical reason for it.

We get enough "Oh, you just need to see a doctor/therapist/whatever!" as it is.

I really hope they do the right thing. And don't do what they ended up doing to intersex people. :/

I friggin' love House, but the episode where a girl was found to have an intersex condition really made me want to hurl. :(

what did they say in that episode? ._.

Oh, well a young girl who was a model had a bunch of medical problems and of course as House always goes it turns out she was into drugs and also got molested by her dad. It turned out she had testicular cancer and she was unaware she was intersex, but had an androgen insensitivity condition that prevented her from developing like a boy, which resulted in a female external profile.

House came in and broke the news to her in an incredibly crappy way by repeatedly referring to her as "he" and "his," called the dad gay because he molested his SON, and later commented on her supposed model-like perfection with the sum-up phrase "the perfect woman is a man."

Like, as if SHE HAS TO BE A MAN because she has XY chromosomes. She had female gender identity. And I know House is a douche sometimes, but even putting aside the jerkassy way he explained her condition, making it seem like she was "actually a boy all along" was troubling.

that is... ugh. so much fail.

well, at least my hopes won't be raised too high for this upcoming episode. i'd rather be pleasantly surprised than have them dashed.

I could sort of forgive House being so full of fail if he actually got called out on it. *headdesk* I'm sort of expecting the character himself to be full of fail about asexuality in this upcoming episode, but it's not unheard of for him to be shown as the one in the wrong.

Well, Dr. House is an unrepetant asshole. Still, they should have balanced out his comments with someone being all like, "Fuck you, she's a woman you fucking fuck."

How awful (although I suppose that is his trademark...)!
So here's a quick tangent to make the world less depressing:

In a German crime drama last year, an intersex teenage girl featured and her physical gender was central to the case, as she was aspiring to be a sports pro (to say more might be spoilers). The doctor who confirms her possession of testicles then goes on to say:

"Gender does not happen between the legs, it happens between the ears. As far as I am concerned, she is a woman."

Transcript excerpt:

House: Looks like a tumor doesn't it?
Cameron: But those are--
House: Yep.

House: We found a tumor.
Dad: She has cancer?
House: Technically, no.
Dad: So it's not cancer?
House: No, it's cancer. But, he has cancer, on his left testicle.
Alex: I don't have testicles.
Dad: She's not a guy.

House: His DNA says you're wrong. Frogs and snails and puppy dog tails. You've got male pseudohermaphroditism. See, we all start out as girls and then we're differentiated based on our genes. The ovaries develop into testes and drop. But in about 1 in 150,000 pregnancies a fetus with an XY chromosome, a boy, develops into something else. Like you. Your testes never descended because you're immune to testosterone. You're pure estrogen, which is why you get heightened female characteristics; clear skin, great breasts. The ultimate woman is a man. Nature's cruel, huh?

Dad: This is obviously a joke, this is impossible.
House: No, a joke would be me calling you a homo. See the difference? I'll schedule him for surgery.
Alex: (She gets out of bed.) No, you're wrong. I'm a girl. (She pulls off her gown.) Look at me! How could you say I'm not a girl? See! They're all looking at me. I'm beautiful!
House: Anger, it's just the cancer talking. Put your clothes back on. I'm going to cut your balls off. Then you'll be fine. (She covers up, crying, and looks at her dad who turns to look out the window.)

Cuddy: How's the patient?
House: Post op. I sent him-slash-her up for a psych visit.
Cuddy: Calling her "him-slash-her" isn't really helping.
House: Good news is, I don't think dad's going to be sleeping with him-slash-her again. See, now it's gross.


Now that you post it, I remember it. I think I'd actually blocked it out since seeing it.

I had a similar reaction to the episode recently with the overused, based-on-stupid-stereotypes episode with a character who had a split personality. I wanted to punch the writers and the actors in the face with a metal boxing glove for that one.

i was all ready to be horrified, but after reading that i interpret it as him using his asshole status to do some good: deliberately harping on it in order to stop her father's abuse.

You're completely right - this has the potential to go really well, or really badly. I may even watch this episode of House, after giving up for good after the whole House-Car-Crashing-into-Cuddy's-house disaster. Sadly that incident and most of the 7th season made me lose the last of my respect for House as a character. So I'll have to be cynical and say I don't think it's gonna end well.

I also haven't watched House for ages, but at least there's Wilson with his great two lines. Because even though they ruin it in the end, I have hopes that Wilson is at least not very happy about it (except there was some LIFE THREATENING DISEASE that got LUCKILY DETECTED by House's suspicions).

Is it wrong that I honestly would have preferred it if Wilson's reaction to being offered that bet was, "Hell no, leave their sexual orientation alone"?

It'd be the better reaction, but given House's passive-aggressiveness, privacy would probably be more invaded if he said no because House would do it on the sly. Of course, if Wilson really didn't want to go into it he shouldn't have brought it up at all, but then we wouldn't have it as a subplot to begin with.

This might be the only episode of House that I ever watch*. Where and when does it show? Hulu? I want to see what happens with this. You've got the nail on the head with "could end really well or really badly", and I-the-optimist wants to believe they'd get it right, but I-the-realist am apprehensive and unsure, because yeah.

*not a reflection on the show, just on me: I don't watch TV shows

It *should* be streaming on (the parent network site) eight days after airing, and Hulu should get them a little while after that. And I'm really more of a lurker at this comm, but if this indeed deals so much with asexuality (it was the focus of promo #3, even) would I be able to make a post with (legal) viewing links and opportunity for the comm to discuss the episode's treatment of asexuality? Or is that a bit too much for here? I really don't know and I want to be within the limits of the comm if I did something like that.

I think it would be fine but feel free to contact the mods if you're unsure... they would have an answer for you quite quickly.

I think that would be really interesting so I hope you follow up!

I'm not a mod, but I'd be up for that. I'd like to see what it's like, and also to participate in the ensuing discussion.

As of "a bit too much" - I don't think so: this comm is quite live-and-let-live, and this is very on-topic anyway. So you're prolly fine.

Ahhh! I haven't seen most of this season but I'll watch this for sure! I'm just hoping that they do a good job and that it doesn't turn out to be medical in reason. Based on my past House viewing, I feel it's not likely to turn out as a medical cause. *crosses fingers*

YES! I totally love it... my heart skipped a beat hearing that first line. I am totally wanting to watch that episode NOW!


I don't want to say anything too spoilery because not everyone has been able to see it yet, but it just finished airing in my time zone.

So I'll content myself for now with "bleh." Not an unexpected "bleh" but "bleh" none-the-less.

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